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Interview: Devrah Laval

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devrahlavaltarot4success.com presents an interview with Devrah Laval, who is the international bestselling author of “The Magic Doorway into the Divine” and “Leap to Freedom – Healing Quantum Guilt.” Today she’s going to discuss forgiveness, freedom, and non-dualism with us.

Taylore: Hi Devrah. Your book “Leap to Freedom: Healing Quantum Guilt” is all about freeing ourselves. Can you tell us more?

Devrah Laval: How we can free ourselves from guilt is to come from a whole different perspective. We are so caught in our illusion of separation that we just can’t comprehend what it would be like to be whole or already free. If we can release ourselves from our long held beliefs, we will get a glimpse of what we really are and what we are not.

Taylore: Tell me your thoughts on forgiveness.

Devrah Laval: True forgiveness is not forgiving someone for their mistakes, but rather, it is in forgiving myself for “seeing” the illusion of separation as being real. This I call Quantum Forgiveness, as Quantum Guilt needs Quantum Forgiveness.

Generally, if we have hurt someone in some way, we are encouraged to ask for forgiveness from that individual. We might say, “Please forgive me for acting out of line.” This seems helpful, but does it really work? In a world of separation, when we forgive another person for a perceived injustice, we are actually separating from them even more by putting our attention on their guilt, rather than on their innocence.

We perceive the wrong action as coming from them and not originating from us. True forgiveness can only come out of oneness. It is ourselves that we are forgiving for projecting onto another our unconscious guilt. In essence, the “other” is ultimately innocent. In the comic strip from 1971, Pogo summed this up simply when he said, “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

To recognize that, whenever we see a problem, we are always there is a great way to begin forgiving projections, because this serves as a reminder that there’s nothing “out there”.

You are the one who perceives. If you are the perceiver, then you can take back the projections that create the world that you see. Not unlike sitting in a movie theater, once the film is over and the projector is turned off, you know that the images you saw on the screen never really existed. If we could remember that this world is just a dream, our belief in separation would naturally dissolve.

Taylore: I know your philosophy is one of non-duality. Can you tell me more about that?

Devrah Laval: Philosophy is tricky because it is a mental construct that is a trap that can keep us separate from all that is…no concept equals no separation. So in order to experience reality, we have to come from a place where we know nothing. Only then can we experience everything.

Taylore: What do you think is going on behind the veil, on a subtle energetic level, when one person forgives something or someone?

Devrah Laval: Time collapses. When we forgive, we are not forgiving people, but rather dissolving the “data” that serves to keep us separate from who we are. The body itself is one of the biggest veils that we identify with, and so our forgiveness would be to forgive the belief in being alone in this body, and be reminded that we are one with the Eternal. Then slowly we realize that this body that we all identify with, has nothing to do with who we really are.

Forgiveness at this level is helping us all to collapse time and return to the great ocean of Love. Time collapses when we truly forgive – by seeing innocence where blame and guilt used to be. The undoing of time occurs, as it is no longer necessary, as the job of time is to keep the illusion of separation in place. In time-less-ness, fear, guilt and separation are no more. So forgiveness is not only a messenger of love, but also a vehicle to return to love. When we see through the illusion by forgiving the projections we’ve placed on our world and the people in our life, we collapse time.

As long as there is a separate sense of “I”, there will always be time, and we will always suffer. No me = no time = no suffering.

Taylore: What one piece of advice, if you had the chance, would you give your teenaged self?

Devrah Laval: That is a good question. When I was a teen, I had an extremely difficult time fitting in. Reflecting back, I would assure her that she is infinitely loved, and perfect exactly as she is.

I’d also tell her to be like a rock in a stream and let other people’s comments flow around her and not through her. And I’d tell her what Shakespeare said…”This world is a play and we merely the actor’s in it.” Had someone told me this when I was seventeen, that I was just an actor in a play called “life” and all I had to do was play my part really well, I would have been very relieved.

Thank you Devrah for sharing your amazing experiences and wisdom with us today!

Visit Devrah at: http://devrahlaval.com
And thanks for joining us!

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